tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post4651725931082528369..comments2024-02-13T16:12:24.835+02:00Comments on Vesa Linja-ahon blogi: Police Board of Finland Attacks Wikipedia's Fundraising CampaignVesa Linja-ahohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16461569556682455484noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-80313843519749058812014-02-11T14:06:01.391+02:002014-02-11T14:06:01.391+02:00The law prohibits unlicensed collection of money i...The law prohibits unlicensed collection of money in Finland. Somebody is asking for money in Finnish in a Finnish language foreign website popular in Finland. It is reasonable to assume that this means that money is being collected in Finland, even if the party asking for money is not in Finland. There is no significant Finnish-speaking population outside our country. At least to me the legal side seems obvious and the police is doing their duty upholding the law.<br /><br />Perhaps the law should be changed, but that is another issue. Perhaps Wikipedia should have asked its local administrators to make sure that what they are doing is legal (it should be obvious that asking for money from the public is an issue that many countries have regulated in some form). <br /><br />Since donating is not illegal, don't forget to click the "Donate" button on the left side of Wikipedia pages. I gave 30 euros already.<br /><br />kiravuoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-58553258529265285502014-02-10T08:36:23.333+02:002014-02-10T08:36:23.333+02:00Yes, it is awfully bad that there is a legislation...Yes, it is awfully bad that there is a legislation that hinders diverse criminals and swindlers to raise money for different "good causes" (that is, to their pockets) and that this legislation is actually followed by the authorities. BUT, it is of course not only a little pity that Wikipedia and contemporary crowdfunding schemes are not exactly compatible with this legislation. So, instead of taking this action as a some sort of crusade against Wikipedia and free speech, it might be more reasonable and useful to use it as an argument in a discussion to change the current legislation to be more compatible with international non-profit fund-raising.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-57565830750390950122014-02-09T15:00:51.914+02:002014-02-09T15:00:51.914+02:00Welcome to European China. This is modern Finland,...Welcome to European China. This is modern Finland, aka Kekkoslovakia, the world's most western province of soviet union. Of course in this police state the police board wants to restrict any uncontrolled medias and freedom of speach. There has bee no free press for years, only the misinformation of the approved truth. So why not attack the wikipedia?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-74426259243367269872014-02-08T21:16:37.637+02:002014-02-08T21:16:37.637+02:00"It's interesting to see what the Finnish..."It's interesting to see what the Finnish Police Board can do to a large American nonprofit foundation."<br /><br />My concern would be... they could try to prosecute Finnish Wikipedians that translated the message as conspirators, or hold any Finnish Wikipedia admins as partners aiding the "crime" of "pleading from an audience without a permit".MysidArchivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05163218597315357680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-40601971740061037782014-02-08T20:56:03.405+02:002014-02-08T20:56:03.405+02:00Wikimedia Finland just released an announcement (i...Wikimedia Finland just released an announcement (in Finnish):<br /><a href="http://wikimedia.fi/2014/02/08/rahankeruusta/" rel="nofollow">http://wikimedia.fi/2014/02/08/rahankeruusta/</a><br /><br />The key point translated:<br />"The admins and Wikimedia Finland (registeded association) are independent bodies which are not liable for actions of the Wikimedia Foundation."<br />Vesa Linja-ahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16461569556682455484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-86954653746665677302014-02-08T19:44:14.974+02:002014-02-08T19:44:14.974+02:00Erm. Perhaps Wikipedia should just reply something...Erm. Perhaps Wikipedia should just reply something like "Juristiction! Also eat a bag of dicks!"Shayne Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12746729406760490045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-6809130471207155812014-02-08T18:44:30.194+02:002014-02-08T18:44:30.194+02:00Since when it's been the job of finnish police...Since when it's been the job of finnish police to police foreign sites/organizations? This has nothing to do with "upholding the law" you silly goose. Just because website has a Finnish version doesn't make it "our" jurisdictionanandamidenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-10652334906684479422014-02-08T17:48:31.029+02:002014-02-08T17:48:31.029+02:00The Nazi's upheld the law! Got Godwin out of...The Nazi's upheld the law! Got Godwin out of the way there.JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251178542103308715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-51756493267880548792014-02-08T17:37:52.453+02:002014-02-08T17:37:52.453+02:00If you by "attack" mean "uphold the...If you by "attack" mean "uphold the law", then yes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940057843976572935.post-78543783016557008052014-02-08T17:33:18.851+02:002014-02-08T17:33:18.851+02:00"It's interesting to see what the Finnish..."It's interesting to see what the Finnish Police Board can do to a large American nonprofit foundation. My guess: nothing."<br /><br />Like large US organizations doing whatever they want is a good thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com